I begin by thanking Micol (reminiscent of his first name ... book "The Garden of the Finzi-Contini" of Giorgio Bassani, one of the writers that I am the true love .. .).
I count change - always inspired by criticism of Micol - the presentation of messages. In the left column you will find, in the first illustration from the top, a list of labels that will be nothing but a list of topics (which will be: riddle number 1 answer to the puzzle number 1, Intermezzo, Elisa, etc). e you can, the clicking, deploy all content. However, on the right column will appear - if I can safely this result - a single text, the last posted. Micol merit thanks!?
And mistakes in French? Do not talk about: Having twists, sprains, dislocations and other offhand attacks that I suffer as my mother tongue, mmm ... avoid the subject.
At Manon C. I must apologize for having made him wait so long I think about his answers. Here they are, Manon.
Excerpt from Manon (available in full in the comments to the post of 23 July):
"... One suggestion: the painter would it not Vien ? (...) Other Answers escape me ... I should do research ... The dedication perhaps Ms. dB? BUT NO ... impossible ... "
Manon, for answering the first question without having the means of a search - as it was, at the date of his message (posted July 28), on holiday in Siena - Merit some congratulation. And if it evokes the dedicatee, using an enigmatic expression - which for me the flavor of the writings of Choderlos de Laclos or Madame de Genlis - is the Madam dB. which I think She will also find the answer to another question I asked.
I spend briskly comment Philippe who complimented me on my blogging (compliments of a special train left today) and I do not want to discourage return but whose vague answers lead nowhere. He suggests that this is a French painter (thank you for accuracy, we can remove the painters of all other nations) who worked on a topic Greco-Roman (certainty already gained from my directions ... we misread the blogging, Philip??) and deploys a charming fantasy about (or) ... dedicatee
For this decidedly unknown (this is indeed a woman) confuses: Pia , which - for the rest - I extend a sincere praise, give me an answer about this error by proposing Madame de Pompadour. Proposal that has yet his logic: Madame de Pompadour was indeed the patroness of Vienna. As Pia has stated (with a higher accuracy through the channel of my email address) the table entitled well "The market loves." The date of his exhibition at the Salon (1) is 1763. What is its execution to 1762. That aside, I can resist not pleased to publish another answer Pia (his entire message is also available in Post commentairesà July 28):
"- What is he exactly? " (this is the table, of course)
"I think it is inspired by a painting at Herculaneum was discovered in 1759, and it would Penia (mother / nanny loves) with the 3 forms of love (need, the desire, possession) to the goddess Venus and her friend Pitho, goddess of persuasion, in charge of making the right choice. I do not know if the author wanted to put another hidden meaning ... "
A better response than exact, reflecting the share of Pia capacity to carry out complex research and a shrewd mind (which is pretty rare).
I thought that this response would be the last to reach me because it touches on ideas about love, about life, almost esoteric ... But it is nothing and you still have to find the identity of Ms. dB. I appeal to Manon (or other readers) so that it reveals his thinking, but anyway I'll give you the answer on Saturday. And who knows if my readers of the American West Coast and Germany, meanwhile, do not we offer? blogged on my visits to these remote drives, the card ClustrMaps (if! sic!) located all down the left column, is the faithful witness (I need to believe in ClustrMaps , otherwise what I think? pfffff ...).
Another information: I intend to enjoy my half-holiday to catch up this blogging on translations, answers, intermezzi, news from Elisa, etc. . Only after having filled the gaps that I repeat making new puzzles ... For both orally and in several quarters I have been lectured (I could write trounced but come to think of the swimming crab pleasure horses while ...) short ... Here are some excerpts of the speeches that were held me: "... We would like a bit of rigor and discipline" (this said with a stern tone and threatening) "The history of the stories in the history that goes pt'it a bit but there ... what a mess! this mess! do not push it ... etc, etc.. "
C.
(1) The Salon was the official exhibition of the painters of the Royal Academy of Painting. We named this exhibition becaufe Fair was held in the Salon d'Apollon in the Louvre. Starting from 1667 we find some stories from the reign of Louis XIV but only under the regency he became the rendezvous of the intellectual and artistic elite. It was held annually from 1737 to 1746. From 1746 and until 1791 he became, with biennial cadence, the status of important event for a company formed by Parisian aristocrats, bourgeois, artists and intellectuals. He opened the morning of August 25, day of Saint Louis and hosted the public until the end of September. Art criticism there nacquit with articles and letters from Denis Diderot to the salons visited it since 1759 until 1781.
A convoy of compliments ...
visitors and visitors of this bloggue, Hi! To all those who submitted their answers, Thanks! (This is a somewhat archaic but incipit in tone with the subject of this post, I wanted to write Ave but we must not be exaggerated .)
Many answers have been found, while the vast majority of readers and Readers swam or walked in the deep dark mystery ...
often start with Micol , thanks. (The name brings me back to the masterpiece of Giorgio Bassani, "The Garden of the Finzi-Contini" ed'altronde Bassani is one of the writers of which, for years, I remain faithfully in love). Micol, after having had the patience to listen to my complaints ("... never a criticism! Toh ... no one corrects me !...") examined with unflinching accuracy Italian texts and has given me, in hands, his opinion. Hands-free, so I can not bring back his words verbatim (maybe it's best!?) I, however, hastened to correct a half-dozen errors (including some Gaulish) lost in my prose Italic. I regret that these corrections are made so late but I'm very happy of their very low number!
Also thanks to Michal, I reflected on the presentation of messages and I decided that a small change will make it more readable bloggue: strip on the left, just below the first illustration, I will put the labels ; this list will be nothing but A list of topics and will present it this way: "Elisa", "Riddle # 1", "Replies", "Intermezzo ...", etc. . Other issues, of course, over time, appear in this list. On the right, where I write posts, I will try to ensure that it is deployed, open of bloggue, only the final text. Micol seems to me that has earned my heartfelt thanks . A
Manon de C. I instead of no less heartfelt apologies for my long-delayed response to his kind comments ... (see comment text of Manon at the bottom of the message of July 23). Here is the answer to my first question of Manon:
"... One suggestion: would it be Vien, the painter? (...) The other answers escape me ... I should do some research (I'm on vacation ... but ...). The person for whom it was painted the picture would perhaps Mme dB? Ma .. no ... impossible ... "
I offer my congratulations to Manon for answering without being able to use the tools of research: it was at present on holiday in Siena area, removed from libraries and cultural centers of its cities. And if his evocation, enigmatic scent of a Mme dB - I can think of some eighteenth-century novels - corresponds to the dB Mme. that really did make this work of Vien, Manon will also somehow answered the last question of the riddle.
thank Philippe for the appreciation expressed for the bloggue. I would not discourage it, Philippe; his proposals, however, for their imprecision, do not respond to any questions.
Philippe suggests that it is a French painter (of course ... you discard the painters of other nations, but this helps us?), Which would work on a theme greek-roman (this statement was part of the evidence proposed to me ... we need to read all the previous answers, dear Philippe) and shows a fascinating fantasy on the question of the Commander (Commander is also said ?)
work ... I would say that "Commander," even if the computer is me denied, because actually, this is a woman who for now remains a mystery. Pia I get to this point, each incorrect answer propose the name of Madame de Pompadour (the most famous mistress of King Louis XV). The proposal, however, has its own logic: the Marquise de Pompadour was the protector of Vien.
As Pia also states correctly, the picture was named "The Merchant of amours" (The selling of love - or of angels) and was exhibited at the Salon of 1763 . Journal of the Royal Academy Exhibition of Fine Arts, the Salon, an annual initiative at first, then two years from 1746 to 1791 was an exhibition of paintings that opened on the morning of the feast of the King, St. Louis, August 25 and lasted until approximately the end of September. The exhibition of the painting at the Salon of Vien allows its performance to date as possible in 1762.
And here's the latest response to Pia, on the true content of the work (the whole message of Pia in the comments at the bottom of the message of July 28):
"- what, exactly, (the painting) ?
I think that (comes) was inspired by a painting at Herculaneum, discovered in 1759, which would Pania (mother-nurse of the cupids) presenting various forms of love (need, desire, possession) to the goddess Venus and her accomplice Pitho goddess of persuasion responsible choice of the sound. I do not know if the author wanted to enrich the work of a hidden meaning ... "
(This answer, rather than right, testifies to complex research and shrewd by Pia ...).
In the top of the message, here is the Pia reproduction of the to which it relates in his commentary. digging was discovered in 1759 in a house that was named Villa Arianna, as there is another picture representing Theseus abandoned Ariadne on the island of Naxos. The Villa is in the territory of Castellammare di Stabia (ancient Stabiae ) near Herculaneum. The fresco, called immediately "The selling of love" (or "of angels" ) was detected and drawn on the field and the design was later recorded by Charles Noll, along with a wealth of other findings, a series of books published in 1761, '62 0.
was from Nolli engraving, which (who never saw the painting) executed the painting. How do you could examine the book with engravings by Carlo Nolli? There is one (or more) sense (i) hidden (i) in the scene painted by Vien?. Answers in the next episode, as we wrote at the end of Appendix novels. I sincerely
that this aspect of the mystery was the last to be revealed, it was already almost esoteric content, linked to lesser known aspects of greek mythology and thought ... But the question that remains unanswered is the identity of Madame dB. If Manon (or someone else, or other) does not reveal the name of living to which he thinks, will give you in every way to the fifth key to the enigma.
Or perhaps some readers of California or the closest Germany we propose: the clustrmaps (written as well!) Recently added at the bottom left of the screen and silent witnesses of their regular visits to this bloggue.
Finally an announcement: I shall take advantage of my half-holiday to fill the gaps in the topics covered. There will be another puzzle immediately, but will write and propose during the month of August, documents and pieces about the characters and themes that already, imaginatively inhabit our dear ...
your bloggue C.
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